Thanks Andrew, I am familiar with the 2 types, I have looked at the "conventional style" and the "Beiswenger" style. Thanks for the info, I have been running a vintage A hydro for a few years, but would like to get into something a bit more interesting.
Post by Andrew 4ce on Sept 20, 2006 8:43:43 GMT -5
Ah ok, Didn't recognize the name Mark from Ottawa. Welcome to the site!
Are you thinking of racing the ASR or just using for fun runs and antique outings?
You and your Dad show up at several events already, you should get out on the water! There is lots of room out there in the ASR class and we're all friends and drive fair in that class.
If you are looking for more interesting... I get a roll up boat. It's the reason I got into runabouts. They are so much fun to drive! Granted the learning is longer with a roll up boat. But once you figure it out it's a blast! You can lean it up and carve a corner like a surfboard or snowboard. It's a riot! On some courses the flat turners are quicker but we have the edge on some courses too.
I've driven a couple hydrobouts and it was very easy to drive, just like a hydro. That's not the ride I was looking for. But to each his own.
You want to build one for the fun of building, or because it's cheaper? Sorry, don't know your wood working experiance.
If it's for fun, then go to it! Let us know how it goes.
But if it's for money, I know a good price on a great boat. It's a A/B boat and works really good. You're pretty light anyway I think eh? I think it would be a good combo. It's $500 Cnd. I'm pretty sure you could try it out if nothing else.
Knox has it. He also has a excellent racecraft for sale, but that would like be much more money. But you never know. I know he is desperate to sell stuff. He has 6 outfits and only uses two. Wants his garage back. All his prices are very low. He's willing to help a new person out.
I would like to get into racing, and ASR seems to be a good class, good racers. I was leaning towards a "roll up" boat, I'm not looking for first place, just want to have some fun. Woodworking and mechanical isn't a problem for me, but if I could find a good outfit reasonable...that would be cool. You are correct, I am a light person, what can you tell me about the boat, have I seen it before?
I have been racing snowmobiles for a few years too, so it would be fun to get some racing in during the summer!
Post by Andrew 4ce on Sept 20, 2006 13:20:28 GMT -5
The boat is a Neal made boat. Tom/Bittu Spedding won LOTS of races with and a nationals or two with a B on it I think. You haven't seen it likely. Scott Knox bought it for ASR to upgrade from his previous boat and has since upgraded to a carbon fibre boat since he's about 180 lbs now. It cornered amazing. He was a smaller guy at the time too and he did well with it. It's been in storage for a couple years but assume it's still in good condition. Also has a couple racecrafts like I said, but you likely want a wood boat. A hand full of motors and whatever else you might need.
In any case, even if you are just curious it's worth the drive to Campbelford to visit the Knox's and see what they have for sale. I think you could leave with a complete ready to race outfit for a shockingly low price. He has a couple outfits in our newsletter advertised at $3k complete and I think he only wants $500 for the Neal. hardware would cost you $300-$400.
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All I really need for now is a bare hull and a motor, I have lots of hardware. Campbelford isn't real far for me, about 2.5-3 hrs. A Neal would be interesting, I am currently driving a Neal 3 point A hydro with a KG4H. What is a decent 15hp A motor worth these days, I have the facilities to rebuild, etc...
Post by Andrew 4ce on Sept 20, 2006 14:05:41 GMT -5
Motors... John Knox would make a deal for the boat and motor only I'm sure, anything that gets a boat out of his garage! haah. he has 2 or 3 motors I think.
Engines alone seem to be getting about $1900-$2200 Cnd right now. You do better if you buy a package. Like the outfit that sold at Long Sault from Armstrongs... boat, motor, prop and cart I think, $3000 asking. The boat only had about 5 races on it! Armstrongs still have a motor left also.
Now is the time to buy too... races are almost done. Winter is coming...
Post by Andrew 4ce on Sept 20, 2006 14:27:58 GMT -5
Hey Mark!! I see Heather Knox is shopping on HydroRacer.net for another boat!!! (CSH) John, her father, must be ready to cry!! and his garage will surely burst. haha. I think that would be 8 boats if she buys it!
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